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(by natural magic I mean in the sense that... traditional magic is supposed to defy science, right? natural magic would have to be something we already have, just don't realize it.)
8:17 AM
my mom doesn't like that thought, for some reason. she just twists her face up every time I mention it, haha
8:18 AM
she's a doctor who astral projects... and she believes in druidic principles... but she disagrees with any kind of magic... hah.
8:18 AM
I guess it's all a matter of perspective.
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from a metaphysical standpoint, everything physical stems from the astral. u cant have a physical object without it being in the astral as well
8:19 AM
definitely perspective
8:19 AM
as the astral in itself is metaphysics 😛
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I mean, everything I've ever tried to do is just... connect to the energy that's there, and try getting it to move a certain way.
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remember as well that its all around u
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exactly, and that's great for when I try healing something; I've been able to do something akin to reiki a number of times.
8:21 AM
you won't see cuts vanish or anything, but I can get rid of pain if I can concentrate enough.
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thats great. shows you have some level of astral acuity
8:22 AM
took forever to think of that word lol
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ah, my inner grammar nazi is pleased
8:22 AM
"You showed him a word he can't remember the definition of... now he's gonna want to keep using it XD"
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ahahah i feel the pain xDD
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Don't worry, his favorite word is still 'defenestration'
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honestly i google the definition of words i already know, just to make sure i know it in its entirety if that makes sense
8:24 AM
lmao didnt know defenestration
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"Connor. It's 4:30 AM. You have work." I know I know... G'night SMG, thanks a ton for all the new thinking material Also, defenestration is the act of pushing/kicking/throwing something/someone off a ledge/cliff/open window, etc.
8:25 AM
in essence... this. IS.. SPARTA!!!!
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lmao. no prob my friends, was fun talking with you all 😃
8:26 AM
Clara will be voicing in more soon, she wants a couple more days as she's a new tulpa (:
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"nice to meet you too! I look forward to meeting them!" It's been a pleasure. Goodnight~
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hello fellow wizards
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AriBirdy | [⌆] 5/17/2019 9:24 PM
i read lizards
9:24 PM
and was concerned
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lol @AriBirdy | [⌆]
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needa share this post from tulpa.info, literally my exact thoughts:
8:47 PM
It is agreed that tulpamancy was derived from Tibetan Monk practice. By definition, that makes it an esoteric practice. Alexandra David-Néel, anthropologist, studying Tibetan Monks learns about Tulpas and decided to give it a go. She reports back to the west, 'no shit, this really happened, and other people saw it...' People read this and do one of three things, dismiss it as folklore, accept it as real, but take out the 'metaphysical' artifacts and explore duplicating tulpas for themselves, or they believed it all and they go into a magical world where their thoughts can affect reality. We will zero out the first and third camps and focus on the 2nd camp: people believe tulpas are possible psychologically, but dismiss all the other aspects. My question is, if they dismiss any part of it, why even endeavor to make a tulpa at all? More than that, if we just go with the curiosity factor, then engage tulpamancy, only to immediately discover "OMG, this shit is real!" then why doesn't that automatically result in even the remotest possibility that all of it could be real?! I mean, here we are, a fringe group trying to tell the rest of the world, this is real and we get dismissed by the majority, and yet we turn around and dismiss the very people that created it or discovered it, the monks, and the first western person to experience it and report back from the far sides of the world 'hey, there is something here...' I mean, either Alexandria had REAL experiences that was SHARED with her group, or she went native! (Translation, crazy due to boundary issues.) If every time something strange happens we put up a sign saying 'there be dragons here' to try and keep people from looking deeper, then we are no better than the other people that say tulpamancy is pure imaginational rubbish.
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Deleted User 5/21/2019 9:24 PM
We don't even know how much of the story of David-Neel is true.
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regardless the argument still holds up if all the alexandra examples are removed (edited)
9:27 PM
we all here know tulpas to be real, do we not
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Deleted User 5/21/2019 9:30 PM
I'm afraid our experiences indicate that tulpas are something else than what the story claimed them to be.
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the question is, is that because of preconceived notions in the tulpa community of today? in my opinion probably
10:31 PM
since the source of tulpas are the mind after all (edited)
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so here my beliefs on the future i believe its like a short line ahead of us, and whats inside that line is foreshadowed by our actions
3:20 AM
it doesn't stretch out that far, but there are few exceptions
3:21 AM
and since its a relatively short period of time ahead of us, this explains how theres no time travellers
3:26 AM
it could be me just associating past events with current events, but seriously it happened so often with me
3:26 AM
its either ridiculous luck (which could be going for better things like not giving me a bad grade)
3:26 AM
or just some habit i picked up
3:28 AM
if the foreshadowing thing is just me being paranoid i still believe the future is a short line
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from what i know, the future is never set in stone
4:34 AM
what your seeing could be a possible future, but it is indefinite
4:34 AM
@awe921 take that for what you will
4:35 AM
also i dont want to say impossible, but time travel is highly improbable unless on the astral plane
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interesting perspective
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Deleted User 5/23/2019 7:42 PM
Nah I think time travel could probably work within the limits of our current scientific understanding
7:43 PM
Well, more accurately it does - different bits of matter are accelerating forward in time at different rates due to velocity, gravitational forces, etc.
7:43 PM
To substantiate it into golden-globe-tier-nonsense might take a long time to figure out however
7:46 PM
There's a lot of different time travel megatypes in fiction and they're each a little different, some are more plausible than others
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I've beem time traveling all my life
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Deleted User 5/24/2019 1:37 AM
Same tbh
1:38 AM
Tfw physically accelerating your body makes you live longer on a quantum level
1:38 AM
Workout motivation???
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I’m motivated
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heard of the eternal now? if you are a believer in it, it pretty much thwarts any theory of time travel on the physical plane (edited)
6:32 AM
in other words there is only now, the past is no longer present and the future is non existing
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How to make a thoughtform ?
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Orphan Rabbit 5/25/2019 11:30 PM
I don’t know if this’ll make sense at first but if clarity is needed, I’ll try to provide as much as I can. I happen to possess astral projection, though most times it interacts through dreams or it is in a non-visible form. For some reason, when such things happen, I tend to be in a different form than my physical body. Based off the explanation of tulpas, I have reason to believe that the non-visual manifestations that occur are a result of potential tulpas I may have, though I cannot seem to know for certain if the two concepts (astral projection and tulpamancy) are capable of working together in such a way. Given I like to research the hidden abilities and such that I hold, I am here trying to understand from the perspective of those more experienced than I am. Any insight would be appreciated.
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oh yeah i used to have prophetic dreams too
11:30 PM
when i read a comment i had serious flashbacks to a dream
11:30 PM
it was about a kid falling off a tarzan swing attraction and dying
11:30 PM
he was too short
11:31 PM
imo i think it was my previous life. no matter how logical i try to approach it, the deja vu and me remembering with clarity instead of blurry, i believe this is the only explanation
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I shown him the channel, i think he wants to know what it is first
11:34 PM
Could it be a tulpa or something else?
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Orphan Rabbit 5/25/2019 11:37 PM
I can understand the past life theory, as I’ve had dreams like that before. Almost like it is me regressing past memories. As for me, when I project, it tends to head off to different locations. I, at first, thought this suggested bilocation, as my girlfriend could feel me near her even though we live in different states. Though I cannot be sure if there was a difference between bilocation and astral projection as both are somewhat similar based on my understanding. Though, as stated before, I have reason to believe tulpas are involved either way, as my non-visual manifestation was different than my actual physical form.
11:38 PM
I would learn the manifestation was more often female where I am actually male.
11:40 PM
As such I wish to understand what is causing this
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is astral plane real ?
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As real Allah is
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Deleted User 5/26/2019 1:08 PM
please tell me : how to make thoughtform quickly ?
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Get an imaginary character and fantasize about them.
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Deleted User 5/26/2019 2:15 PM
How long does it take?
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Deleted User 5/26/2019 2:24 PM
How long does it take to do what?
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Deleted User 5/26/2019 2:43 PM
Thoughtform
2:49 PM
How long does it take to make a person?
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Deleted User 5/26/2019 3:01 PM
I made her personality.
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Anywhere from instant to years
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I keep forgetting that like, most people don’t consider soulbonding purely psychological
7:29 AM
Oh well if anything we can go in here
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..how would soulbonding be purely psychological in the slightest?
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I suppose it shouldn’t be called soulbonding then? But like
7:36 AM
You have your brain. Your brain can house different worlds. The soulbond just goes to a different world inside your brain. No dimensional hopping needed.
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..then wouldn't you still be in the system or whatever else? Or just...gone/forgotten/dormant?
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I’m a fictive. I’m not sure if i consider my past life “real” or not. It doesn’t really matter to me anyways.
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Jake [FeatherFalls] BOT 5/31/2019 7:37 AM
i guess we consider the system as an actual...place near front. That world would be closer to the back
7:38 AM
it all depends on how you define things
7:38 AM
idk this shit is pretty mushy and weird anyways. I wouldn’t bother thinking ‘bout it too much
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We should be eating breakfast
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Soulbonds don't necessarily have to believe their own backstory to count those experiences in shaping who they are
5:39 PM
So they certainly can be meta-free
5:40 PM
The soulbonds in my system are meta-free
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Aren't soulbonds by nature like...you treating the person you're hearing in your head not as a tulpa but as someone else from another reality?
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that's probably close to the meta definition
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[Joy] I consider myself a soulbond, but as long as I can remember, I've always understood that my history is fictional.
10:41 PM
[Joy] but the experiences are real enough
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